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confirm the meeting is now live. Good evening and welcome to tonight's meeting of the passenger
transport liaison group. My name is Councillor Claire Fraser and we'll be chairing this evening's meeting.
This evening we have received a couple of apologies from Yvonne Leslie from Govea, Thames
Link and then one other Michael which you've also shared with me over email as well.
Sorry, I've just now lost off the screen.
I can confirm.
Apologies are also from Sam Russell and Jack Wharton, Jack Wharton being Network Rail.
Okay, so thank you very much for confirming.
And joining us at the meeting this evening, we have some we have one of the Councillor
Councillor Jenny Yates, who is also cabinet member for transport.
and we're just waiting. We haven't received apologies from council Hamilton
but we will catch him up if he joins meeting this evening. I think if other
members instead of going around everyone and getting them to introduce themselves
if you if you just want to state your name if you if you talk for the first
time on the meeting just so that we've got a record of it. So the minutes of
the last meeting of the group held on the 13th of November and can I take
those minutes as agreed please. Agreed. Great thank you very much. So an agenda item two are
there any declarations of interest either pecuniary or other registrable or non -registrable
interest that's always a good word to say. Okay so that's that's all that's been taken care of.
Agenda item three then is the passenger transport public safety. You've got presenting officers
from the British Transport Police and Community Safety team. So I think we've got, am I right?
Michael, you've got your hand up? Yes, and I was also just going to introduce
Tim Dye from the British Transport Police and Davina Smith from the Community Safety team.
Both, I think it's their first attendance at these meetings, so just so you know, chair as well.
Great, and thank you both and more welcome to you, Timothy and Davina. I can see you online,
I can't see your pictures, but just welcome to use my time.
I am here.
I am in.
Oh, there we go.
There we go.
Good season.
And don't worry.
And just thank you very much for giving your time this evening.
And just obviously, as part of these discussions,
quite often we get the crime stats come through.
And quite often, there's a discussion
about why some crime might have gone up
in one particular area and those sorts of issues. So it's always useful to have representatives
and expert voices in those fields to answer some of those questions. So thank you very
much for joining us. I don't know whether you've got anything you want to update us
on particularly as part of the course this evening. Timothy, I'll come to you first.
No, so not really. As Michael alluded to there, it is my first time joining you guys. Sergeant
Dave Houston from our Richmond team came along because I couldn't attend the last
meeting and yeah just basically from us for British Transport Police.
I think just the main things for you guys for Wandsworth for next month so
Easter holidays we're focusing mainly on Clapham Junction as I'm sure you see
when you do have the crime statistics that is the highest crime location that
we have on our patch. So I'm part of the neighbourhood team we cover the south
West inner London bit so it's not just Wandsworth, my team cover, we also do Merton, Richmond,
Kingston and Lambeth as well as barriers of Surrey so it's not just Wandsworth, so for
us as well Clapham Junction is the highest area but our chief inspector is putting a
bit of funding in so we're hitting Clapham Junction probably more than we have especially
over the April upcoming Easter holidays to try and reduce some of the crime around that
area. And yes, I completely get there's other issues in other areas of Ballym, sorry in Wandsworth,
we've got Ballym, we have the two teams as well, but it's the main focus from up above is Clapham
Junction for April, so that's where we're really going to be focusing on. Great, thank you. And
if I may just before I open it up, if anyone's got any questions, is that reviewed then from your
perspective on a month -by -month basis, you said for the month ahead? Yes, so we've got other
issues going on in Lambeth. So that's also the priority at the moment for this month.
And then we've got some activity in Balaam later this week as well. So we have got a
few things coming up in New Alboa. But yeah, the direction from above gives us priorities
to focus on month by month. And there's been a few recent issues in Lambeth. So that's
where we're focusing at the moment for March. But yeah, like I said, we're still doing some
stuff in Wandsworth because we've got Balaam this Friday as well. Thank you
very much. You can see Council Yates, you've got your hand up. Yeah Tim, thanks
very much for that useful update. I just wondered what are the trends on crime at
Clapham Junction and what are the main types of crime? Well the highest crime is
theft of passenger property. It always is very very high for us and the way it
always is high is most the time it's phone theft, it's snatches and to claim
on insurance, the first thing they always ask is you need a reference number. So it's
always, always heavily reported by passengers because they can't often claim off the insurance.
It's the other offences that aren't always reported that we're quite keen on. It's the
sexual offences and the robberies that sometimes happen, but nobody ever reports them. So if,
especially for you, Councillor, if anybody from your constituents says they've been a
victim of a crime on the railway, please do encourage them to at least report it, even
they don't want to take it any further, even if they don't want to give a statement, don't give
to court. If we don't have the stats, we can't see where the crime areas are. So as I was saying to
you all earlier, we have our chief inspector decides where our focus is for the month. If we
don't know it's happening, we won't get sent there. So we really need the public really push
the text number 61016. I think 101, put six each side. It's a text way of texting in if people
don't want to call the non -emergency number and obviously 999 always in emergencies. Don't be
afraid to call 999 if it's an emergency. But for us, the text number is just another way to report
crime. And some people do want to, don't want to proceed. That's absolutely fine. We can't force a
victim to proceed. But it will really help our statistics knowing where the high harm offence is.
And for us, high harm, it's robberies and it's sexual offences. And that's, unfortunately for
Clapham, it's kind of at the junction of a key few routes. So Robberies is always much
higher for us than other areas of Wandsworth Barrow, so that's why we have been focusing
on that a lot, especially through the darker nights over the winter. So the last few months,
I don't know if Dave Hewson mentioned it in the last meeting, Robberies was one of the
ones we've been cracking down on over December and January at Clapham Junction in particular,
as well as the lines of route towards Ballyham and then on to Croydon. I hope that answers your question.
Yeah thanks very much Tim. I just wondered about the trend. Is it getting worse or better?
Certain trends are there. So we're anticipating an up increase of sexual offences for the summer.
So there's a dedicated sexual offences team being set up for British Transport Police.
They're going to be held more centrally so they probably will gravitate towards the underground
network, if I'm honest. So that's why it's key to have these crimes being reported, so that if there
is an upward trend, if there is a problem. The other year we had an upsurge between Wimbledon
and Clapham on the main line, so if that happens again we really want to see it, so I can put in
a bid to try and get some of that resources down there. Especially as well, the Northern line is
always a problem in the morning. Cramped trains, and especially when it gets to summer, that's
we see an increase in sexual offences. So again that's the trend we're anticipating for. There
has been a downward trend in robberies which is great but it's just the anticipation of the next
trend which seasonal variations normally dictates will be sexual offences. Thanks very much, yeah
very helpful, thank you. Yeah and thank you for that and I think it's great also at Caffrey Junction
we've got the safe space on Friday. David, come to you.
Hi, I'm David Tiddley, I'm the Head of Transport Strategy for the Council. Just two quick
questions. One was Battersea Power Station on the northern line, it's got a new station, I was just
wondering again whether or not there was anything particular or any particular issue coming out of
out of that station or whether or not it was pretty standard compared to any other tube station?
Yeah, Battersea. Battersea we've not had any peak in the statistics. Nine Elms however we have,
although Nine Elms is Lambeth, so I don't think that's you guys is it? It's just the other side
of the border. Yes, Nine Elms unfortunately out of the two new stations is the one that's
causing the most issues, so that's where we have been focusing our attention the last month. We
We have been linking in with the Met Police as well for Wandsworth because Battersea Power
Station with the new shopping area as well, we thought there'd be an increase with deaths.
I think having that dedicated security team there has really helped in that area.
But no, in regards to Battersea Power Station, not as much significant concerns to us as
much as Nine Elms has been.
And then just coming back to Clapham Junction again, I understand from previous discussions
that crime is reported at the station at which it's reported at, so that doesn't mean all
the crimes actually happen in the Clapham Junction, but that's where it's being reported,
that's correct, yes?
No, it's end of line of route, so it's where the person gets off to end their journey,
So Clapham is normally high as well because a lot of people will interchange their journey there.
So that's the main thing. That might be what you're thinking. So if somebody was traveling
and they got off the train at Clapham, that's where the crime would be recorded effectively.
If they continued on to Waterloo, it would be the end of the line. So yes, we naturally see
theft of passenger property go up when you're at one of those interchange stations because that's
when somebody gets off the train, that's when they check their pocket, that's when they check their
and realise that's when their Oyster card, their wallet, their phone is missing because that's when they're interchanging
and that's when they need it to exit the station or to continue their journey.
Okay, thank you very much. Is there any more questions or anything else, Timothy?
No? Okay, thank you very much.
Well, I'll stay on the call. If there's anything else, just give me a shout.
will do and thank you for reiterating the advice as well. I think it's always worth doing.
Davina, I didn't know whether you wanted to add anything or say anything at all.
No, I think you've mainly covered it Claire. Obviously we've got the safe spaces,
also in terms of the links to the transport routes and hubs,
and that will continue for the Cap 'n Junction location which we have.
And I'm just here to kind of really observe and learn a little bit and hopefully see if
we can re -energize with some of the data that we shared previously before.
So I've got a data analyst in our community safety team and that's something which we've
been looking at.
However, recently the box data set where we retrieved the information from around offences,
we haven't been updated.
So we're just at the moment trying to see if we can retrieve some way of being able
get that information to share with you for future meetings but I'll keep you updated.
Thank you. Thank you. Councillor Yates, you want your hand up?
Yeah, thanks very much. Davina, I just wondered, do you know how much the safe space at Clapham
Junction is used? Is it well used? I don't have the figures currently available, Councillor,
but I can find out and get back to you.
But I believe it is well used
and it's part of some of the wide work
which we're doing around women's safety
and might as well with across the team.
So I can share an update to report for future meeting.
Thanks, that'd be great, thank you.
Yeah, thank you and thank you again, Dovina, for joining.
So just on this item, can I just check,
are there any other comments or questions on?
Oh sorry I can see Councillor Hamilton's just joined so he might actually
Hi Councillor Hamilton. Hello? We can't hear you if you can hear us.
Councillor Hamilton.
I can, apologies, my previous meeting ran on.
Excellent, welcome this evening. So we've just gone through the first update which was an update on, here you are,
which is an update on passenger transport and public safety. So we had an update from Tim and from Divina as well on the community safety initiatives at Clapham Junction.
So we were just about to move on from there.
But before we do, just wanted to make sure you do appreciate,
you just joined, I don't know if you had anything you want to raise on that.
I didn't. Again, apologies for the lateness, I was trying to extract myself.
I know that feeling well.
Okay, well, thank you very much.
And Tim and Davina, you're more than welcome to stay,
but we are going to go on to then talk about,
as you can see next, we've got buses, trains and overground,
and underground to cover.
you're more than welcome, we'll probably be out another 45 minutes, but equally,
you've both got busy jobs and busy lives, so we won't be offended if you want to log off
the meeting. That's fine, we cover the underground as well. Perfect, okay, we'll keep you. Okay,
so just thank you very much for your updates, it's really useful to have and really puts into
context some of the stats that we get on piece of paper sometimes that we quite often have questions
around. So moving on then to agenda item four is on buses on the section we've
got the extension of bus route 315 into the hospital development.
Hi there everybody, James Picard, I'm working for TfL in the local communities and
partnerships team. I have an update on this, so after our last meeting last year and the
original could go live date for this has been unfortunately had to be moved back
from February until it's going in on the 3rd of May this year so reason for that
delay there was some construction work being carried out next to the stands but
that date is pretty firm now of all the other construction work is now complete
so like I say the go live date is 3rd of May this year the stops on Glen Burnie
road are due to be installed next month. There was a successful route test carried out two
weeks ago. So we are all set for that and the G1 will return to the site on the same
day. So third of May, everything should be good to go.
Lovely, thanks very much, James. I'm good to hear that. Councillor Hamilton.
Thank you. Just on the G1 bus, I know obviously we received these statistics about delays,
but I think it was just worth noting particularly in Ballon,
it is one that I do get quite a lot of comments
from residents on about the repeated delays to the service,
particularly given those who live on areas
like Nightingale Lane that are quite a long way
from the station do rely on it,
particularly to get to hospital appointments at St. George's.
So anything that can be done to make sure
that does run on time would be genuinely appreciated
because it is one that we do hear about
on a frequent basis for residents? Sure absolutely we'll pass that back on.
Unfortunately I don't have the statistics in front of me on the G1. Is the G1 one of yours Malcolm?
Is it somebody else? No. Okay. I'm sorry James, it's not one of mine I'm afraid. No that's okay.
I'll come back to you on that one Councillor but like I said I'll pass that feedback on.
Thank you. Thanks. David are you going to come in on the G1? It was yeah only just to say that
traditionally it has been a poor one of the poor performing buses low frequency route that goes
Has a very convoluted
Those who know it and it does tend to score poorly
Whether or not there might be some bus priority or some something that we can do as a highway authority to potentially overcome those
Issues we can take a look at that, but it's it's always struggle
Thank you and just going back to the 315, Councillor Yates did you want to raise a point
on that or the G1?
My point's on the 315.
Okay yeah no that's fine I thought I'd take yeah take us back to that one before we move
on to any other bus routes that's all go on Councillor Yates.
Yeah James sorry please could you just repeat what did you say on the 315?
So the 315 will be extending into the new development when the stop's done and everything is ready to go on the 3rd of May.
Okay, so it's not currently running along Glenburnie Road into Springfield, it's not happening until the 3rd of May?
No, that's my understanding of it.
Okay, yeah, no because I had thought it was due to start before that, wasn't it?
Yes, we had it in the last meeting and I updated to advise that it was planned for February,
but due to those ongoing issues, well, the construction works are now complete.
That was the reason for the delay.
Okay, yeah.
And there are some concerns, I think, from residents in that area about, you know, how
the bus will really kind of get through and the congestion.
will you will it be kind of a monitoring of how it goes down there? So as I said before we have been
able to do a route test which has proved that services can run safely down there but obviously
if there are significant reports of any kind of disruption or anything like that then we can we
can review that as and when we go but obviously we'll be working with your officers on that so.
Thank you.
Thank you. I thought I saw another hand but take care of this gun.
Any other questions or points on the 315?
No. Okay thanks.
The next step we've got monitoring of bus routes 14, 4 -3 -0 and 4 -3 -6.
So I have been in contact with our performance teams about these routes.
So on the 14, 4, 4 .30 and 4 .36, recent performance, looking at excess wait times for the last
couple of periods, it's appeared to be quite good.
There were some issues over the Christmas period with some of the roadworks through
the area and our general performance wasn't great over them.
But in the last couple of periods up until now, we have noticed an improvement in those
wait times.
So we're feeling relatively positive about that.
Route 430 has had a reliability schedule put in place to help with performance.
And we have seen an improvement in that excess wait time as a result of that.
So, yeah, I'm happy to take any questions on those routes.
Thank you.
Anyone have anything at all?
But it's good to note that those interventions have had a positive impact.
No, I don't think there was anything for that one. So thank you, James. The next one is, and it would just be helpful, I guess, just as a reminder, if you can say which if you've got them to hand which areas those four routes the buses are covering just,
you know, in case anyone just watch these afterwards.
So the next ones is 39, 93 and 493.
Yeah, so the performance on the 93 has been good in the last couple of periods with the
excess wait time meeting its target.
The 493 has had a bad period 12, the most recent period, and traffic loss mileage was
quite high.
But the previous two periods did actually meet its excess wait time.
I've asked the performance team to come back to me with some lines as to why that period
12 may have been problematic.
I'll provide an update on that as soon as I get it.
The 93 also has a reliability schedule in place to help with performance as well because
we know there's been some issues in the prior periods.
Again, we're hoping that the next couple of periods will show that that reliability schedule
is improving the performance overall.
So hopefully by the time the next meeting comes around, I should be able to provide
you with some more details on how that's working.
Lovely, thank you very much and David I can see you've got your hand up.
Yes just to say on 493 if I've got my numbers right let's to toot into Huttney Bridge via
Wimbledon and Southfield route and it has been caught up in road work that ends of the route so
in Windmoor, the Land Roadworks and Putney. All the routes we've been talking about are
routes that have been problematic in recent months. I think James is right that those
problems are not as bad in the last few weeks and have been improving. I know Malcolm said
that he didn't have any bus routes but he does have routes on
I was going to ask particularly the 220 and 270 because Putney Bridge Road seems to often be a bit of a problem.
Yeah I was just coming there, Malcolm Claridge for first bus formerly RATP
group. Yeah our main two routes in the Putney area are the 85s which come up from
south and the 220s from the north, both to reiterate what James Picard was saying, both
have reliability schedules on them due to the fundamental changes in and around the
route we introduce a reliability schedule which basically adds a bus or more time or
whatever so it's a more streamlined service so it works better.
Thank you very much, Councillor Yates. And as we're getting information from Malcolm
Maclellan, I'm just wondering if you could tell us about the performance of the 170 recently?
Unfortunately, Councillor, that's not mine either.
I thought it was. Never mind. I know the 493 actually runs to Richmond, David, and I know
it's up for tender so let's leave that there. I can provide you with an update on the 170 following the meeting, Councillor. I'll take that action and come back to you.
James, don't worry because Geoff Hobbs did give us a bit of an update recently. I've just,
I've got confused. I thought Malcolm was the 170 but now I remember it's the 85.
What's of a particular interest to me?
Of course you'll learn the numbers for the routes later.
As I'm aware, Council.
Okay, well that's, they were all the items, or all the numbers for the bus routes that we had on the agenda, just to check that there were no other bus related points before we move on to trains and overground.
Can I just have one Colton Drive, which is just so short of Putney High Street. We have
a tree issue down there. It is a legitimate to Talman point because there's a bus stand
in it that hasn't been used for many years. But we tried to introduce it as a settlement
point for the 85 other than the green man. Some of the council is a bit aware of the
problems that were encountered at the Green Man. We tried to introduce Carlton Drive and
unfortunately you can't get a double deck bus down it due to the overgrown trees. I
believe the Wandsworth Council did cut back the highway trees but most of the trees that
infringe on Carlton Drive now are on private property and they're the ones that are causing
an issue. In my head it makes a really good contaminant point for the 85s because most
people want either of the two stations, either Putney East or Putney, to catch a train and
it falls right between them. So if you could get some tree fellas down there and do some
tree felling.
Thanks.
Thanks, I think.
Saloni, I'll come to you.
I was just going to say, I can help you actually,
now, Malcolm.
Thank you.
I'll take that out.
Thank you, Saloni.
Thank you very much, Fraser.
That's the ace.
Yeah, thanks, Malcolm.
That's really interesting, because as you say,
I think if there has to be curtailment,
I think passengers would prefer that to the green man.
I don't know David if you've got any comments on this.
Yes so Carlton Drive is used for the tubers out of action so it does have that option of being used
as a curtailment point because you know it is a way of doing buses around on their route.
I'm not sure what the residents in Carlton Drive think of, it was just a standard regular
bus route, but it's certainly a very good and a better option than just dropping people
off at Lytton Grove.
What we observed with the 85s and most of the buses that come down from the Green Man
is the people on them get off at the bottom of Putney Hill and walk because it's quicker
than sitting on a bus.
Even to get to the next bus stop by the station, there is a lighting point only at the bottom
of the hill just before the south circuit and that's where most people get off and walk.
That is dependent on time of day but I would suggest anywhere between 8 and 9, all the
and Putney High Street are empty because everybody's walking. Thank you very much.
Malcolm, there's always a role for you in these meetings, even if your routes
aren't mentioned. That's good, you're the best bus route in London. I'll be very surprised even on the next
minutes if any of my routes pop up. Okay so moving on to trains and over grounds
now I think the first three things I'm gonna have to come to offices for
because we've not got Jack for. So before we come on to South Western Railway
we've got the access for Wandsworth Town station frequency of
trains and the second entrance at Queenstown Road station all of which I
Jack would have taken. So before we come over to David, I'm going to come to Stoney.
Thank you, yeah I was hoping Jack would have been here to update. I can give an
update on Wandsworth Town. So the access for all scheme and the second entrance scheme at
Wandsworth Town are still being worked on with Network Rail for the detailed design.
I think over the last couple of months they've been completing some of the additional surveys
that were outstanding and I think they've also been looking at how they can carry out
the work next year whilst keeping the station open.
I think there's been some conversations with SWR around that and looking at the impact
on passengers and discussing timetable changes.
So, sort of quite technical at the moment but we've been told that we should have a
confirmed price and programme by the end of August, which is really sort of what we're
waiting for because that will inform if we have the funding for the second entrance and
the next step. So that will be the end of August. I understand 31st August is the date
to get the price and programme. And if all goes well, they are due on site in January
next year with construction taking about 12 months. So that's pretty much where we are.
So hopefully by the next meeting, well not the next meeting made, but in September we will have a
substantial update on those two schemes.
I'm not sure about the timetable, the next agenda item, apologies for that.
Thank you, and he did a Jack's offer to send an email update on anything we don't cover.
Michael, I think it would be useful to follow up on because I didn't respond to his email before but I think it would be
useful to say yes to that and then we can circulate that round afterwards. Now
there's a flurry of hands so I'm gonna go Councillor Hamilton, David, Tiddley then
David will be. Thank you very much it's just a very quick point on the frequency of
services at Wandsworth town which Councillor de la Sejour asked me to raise in this
meeting if we could make sure please that we do get that update that would be
great because it's becoming quite a significant local issue that I know
councillors in the area have been hearing a lot about so if that could be
expedited that would be appreciated. Thank you David Titty. Yeah I just want to follow up on
that because there is one more for David than for Network Rail I think the frequency of trains that
want to obtain and just again Councillor de la Shoa and others have raised it with me as well
which is why as Councillor Hamilton said says it's been put on the agenda. Quite a lot of people are
moving into the new flats along Swandon Way and trying to get on the trains there.
And they are struggling at times.
And the frequencies are still not back quite to where they were in 2020.
We are seeking to do more contributions from the developers for further enhancements to
the rail services there.
but it is to a certain extent dependent on Southwestern really rather than network rail,
I think. Obviously the new fleet, which is the next item or one of the future items has
had more capacity, but the frequency of trains is just still not quite where it was and I
think we would support more trains basically.
Thank you. Okay. And with that nicely teed up, I'll come to you, David Corby.
Hi, my name is David Wilbier. I work for Southwestern Railway. There are no plans for a timetable
increase in May of this year for trains at Wandsworth Tan. In terms of passenger numbers,
the railway still isn't moving the same number of passengers as it was pre -pandemic. And
we are still required by Department of Transport to be a good and efficient operator. And as part
of that must agree a package of measures for a business plan every year with DFT, which we do,
and that includes increases to the timetable and any new services. So at the moment,
nothing planned for May.
Thank you and is there a possibility that any other routes could put a stop in at Wandsworth
town rather than kind of additional services? Is it would it be possible for an extra stop there?
Because yeah I think there are reports in the mornings of you know quite overcrowding
because of the difficulties to get on the train at that area?
Yes, it's something that I get questioned about at this meeting,
or have been questioned in previous times.
At the moment, at present, no,
but I will certainly take that action away and go and talk to my timetable
and see what can be done, if anything at all.
The pinch point we have is getting trains through Clapham
in the right time and then getting them into the platforms at Waterloo and then getting
them back out again because obviously got a finite number of paths, we have a finite
number of platforms.
So just changing where the train is in its journey towards London Waterloo is not as
simple as just stopping one train that may be coming from say Reading or Windsor or wherever
it's come from at Wandsworth town. It's quite a complex thing to do but I will take that
question away and I'll report back. Just on the complexity point and thank you very much for
following up it is appreciated. Just before we come on to the point on new fleet were there
any other points on the previous updates either from Sedonia or on I think we've kind of covered
the extra stopping. I wonder if I can. Okay, then back to you, David will be for the final point.
This is not the most positive news. We put out a press release fairly shortly, so apologizing that
our introduction of the new fleet is taking longer than we thought. But we do we have identified some
measures in the future around training and training
of drivers that will accelerate the training package that we
offer.
And we still hope to have the trains rolled out
according to schedule.
But yeah, at the moment, it's not going as we have,
as we planned and we previously said.
We're going to have some more news on that.
I'll certainly update Sedonia or David on Comtia Direct.
Thank you very much. Councillor Yates. Thanks, David. So these are the new trains through Wandsworth Town and when would you expect them to start?
They've already started and so there are five of them out there at the moment that I see on a regular basis and travel. They come through Wandsworth Town, however there isn't one that's, I'm not sure if there's one that stops at Wandsworth Town yet.
There may be one service that does. I know Michael was talking about catching them earlier.
But all the red trains are planned to be replaced with new ones. So everything that you see
out there that's eight carriages is planned to be replaced with 10 car walkthrough trains.
and you can see those they're parked up in Clapham Junction for most of the time so the trains are
here it's just the training to to bring them into service that is taking longer than we expected.
Yeah no thanks for that I just wondered if you had any idea of the likely date of operation?
No.
Thanks.
Thank you. Any other questions on the new train bowler? No? Okay, well thank you. And Michael will be in touch because we're going to go and get the update from Network Rail and we can circulate that one and colleagues after the meeting but yeah it was with apologies for the late notice today but
So thank you all. So now for the thing, double check, yeah the final substantive item on
the agenda this evening is back to you James for TFL. Yes so I believe this
agenda item talked mainly around the ballum station and flooding problems so I have
been in contact with the London Underground area manager for this particular station.
And we have had a bit of back and forth about it because obviously, to his point, it doesn't appear
to be mould or that's visible at the gate line, which I think is where we was reported last time.
They are aware of an issue with water ingress at platform level and are getting quotes to see what
can be done to try and improve that. Something that they have told me is that a lot of these
stations on this particular stretch of the line do struggle with water ingress at various
points. So we're looking at an issue that is quite, you know, problematic seemingly
at certain stations. So, but yeah, like I said, I would be happy to if there is a specific
location that councillors or officers are aware of that it was within the ticket
line area and if they could send me any photos or we could go on a site visit
I'd be happy to try and arrange that but having spoken with the station team it's
something that they seem to be aware of this point. I'll try to remember to take a photo for you tomorrow morning.
I'll put my way in the jeep because it's quite an obvious area that they put sandbags around and
So it's a weird one that they don't know what it is, but I'll have to take a photo and send
it through.
It requires you to come down James unless you're down this way anyway, but I can send
it and it's obviously only bad on the days when it rains as well, particularly, but obviously
it needs a stain on the wall the rest of the time.
But yeah, I'll take a photo for you.
Just have to remember tomorrow morning or tomorrow evening.
That'd be really great if you could, I'm confused as to why they're not aware of it.
I think I said I'd take a photo before but I'm always usually in like a queue in the morning so
yeah I forget. Yeah no they sent me back some pictures of the issue at platform level but yeah
this seems to be a misfire. I'll take a photo so that we're because yeah it's right next to the
and where the person sits in there's a little box next to the big gate that you go through for
gauge like it is right there. So okay yeah I'm sorry about that but yeah no no no you you act on
my information you've got so I'll try and remember to take a photo one day and I'll send it through to you.
Thank you. Were there any other points on that Daniel? Yeah just a quick one I just wanted to
thank James for your productivity on it I'm aware I also owe you a photograph so you'll either get
it from Councillor Frose or myself but thank you for following that up. Thank you.
with only the points on that or anything else TfL related? No? Can't see it. Yes I just
wondered if there's any update on the step free access funding. I know that was discussed
at last meeting I guess that's probably still being decided but I just wondered if you had
Yes, that's right.
Yeah, I was gonna ask about that.
Yeah, so there isn't any update to our last position on this that I'm aware of.
Like I said, I can take that back and speak with the Step 3 team as to the progress and where they're at with things.
It was the feasibility studies that we were looking at there.
So David may know more than me.
Now I was just going to raise it,
and I was just going to coincidentally
raise the exact same thing,
which was it'd be useful to have an update
on the step three program.
So I don't know whether, Jane,
it might be possible for your colleague
to turn up at the next meeting,
and maybe just give a bit of an overview
about what the program is
and how the stations have prioritized,
what the challenges might be,
you know, not necessarily talking through, you know, the minutiae of
Pertuting Broadway or East Putney, but I know both of those stations, you know,
there'd been emails about them in the last few months. It would just be good, I
think, to just maybe ten minutes, not an hour, but not 30 seconds. It might be
useful to have that sort of degree of update.
Sure, yeah I can absolutely try and get that for you. I believe it would be Joe Adams or David LaBoff, who I think you both know quite well. So I'll speak to those guys and see if we can get that organised for the next meeting, absolutely.
Thanks James, that would be really good.
Yeah, that's really helpful. I know it's something the local MP, Doctor Rosanna in Tooting, is very keen on as well for Tooting for a drug.
OK, I've hopefully just moved off my minutes. So any, just a final check on anything else TFL related, I think we were all going to make the same point there.
So I don't know if there are any other points.
No? Okay well thank you very much James for your updates on TfL and I'll endeavor to remember it in the morning or in the evening.
It's a bit quiet to take a photo. So that moves on to the next item which is Agenda Item 7 which is any other business.
Did anyone have anything else that they wanted to raise that's not been covered this evening?
No? Okay, well the next item is the next meeting date and I don't know Michael have you got
that one to hand where the next one is?
Apologies chair I'm just pulling up the agenda that I had. So the next meeting is on the
13th May and that's just the passenger transport liaison group and then the meeting after that
will be the first one where we then have the Q &A followed by the regular meeting. So the
next meeting will be at 6 .30 as normal.
Okay, thank you very much for confirming. So that concludes the business of the group
this evening. Thank you to all of you who have joined, whether it's your first meeting
or it's one that you enjoy coming to every time.
So thank you all for your time
and enjoy the rest of your evening.
Good night.
Thank you very much.
Good night.
Thank you.
Thank you everybody.