Licensing Sub-Committee - Thursday 25 June 2026, 7:00pm - Wandsworth Council Webcasting
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Thursday, 25th June 2026 at 7:00pm
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The meeting is now live. The first item on the agenda today is to appoint a chair for
the meeting. Please could I invite councillors to confirm if they have an agreed person who
will chair this meeting?
I believe we have agreed that Charlie Fisher will chair the meeting.
Thank you and that looks unanimous so I'll hand over to Councillor Fisher who will chair
for the remainder of the meeting. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Flowers. So welcome to this meeting of the Licencing Subcommittee, which
is being held as a remote meeting. The meeting is being webcast and please bear with us if
there are any technical issues. My name is Councillor Fisher and I'm chairing this meeting.
As Mr. Flowers has said, I will now invite the other attendees to introduce themselves
in the following order. Councillors, officers, applicants, representations.
Councillor Kirsten Botting.
Councillor Toby Hopkins.
Guy Bishop, Legal Advisor to the Licencing Subcommittee.
Julie Hopkins, Licencing Officer.
Michael Flowers, Democratic Services Officer.
Jacob Engen, applicant.
Thanks, Kavisha.
All right, the competition is still there actually, Home Office Licencing Compliance
Team.
And Andre Feingold.
Hi, my name is Andres. I'm from Straight Latin Food, or Florida Samba.
Thank you very much. Are there any apologies for absence or declarations of interest for
any items on the agenda? Thank you.
Is the other members of the subcommittee content to consider the Florida Samba application
first?
the application for the
Samba. Yes. Thank you. So we
will reorder the two
applications to be considered
this evening. We will start
with considering the
application for review of the
premises licence of Florida
Samba in respect to the
premises known as Florida
Samba Unit 67 Broadway Market
Tooting High Street, SW 17 0RJ, and I now invite the licencing officer to introduce the application.
Thank you, Councillor. On 7 May 2026, the Home Office Immigration Enforcement Licencing
Compliance Team submitted a review for the premises licence as held by Samba BR Limited
for Fleur de Samba, Unit 67, Broadway Market, Tooting High Street, SW 17 0RJ, on the grounds
they believed that the licence holder had failed to meet the licencing objective of the prevention
of crime and disorder as illegal working had been identified at the premises following an immigration
enforcement visit on the 8th of August 2025. Immigration originally sought a revocation of
the premises licence. On the 18th of May 2026 the licencing authority received a transfer application
from Latin Market Tuting Ltd applying to transfer Fleur de Samba's premises licence. A copy of the
transfer application was sent to the Home Office Immigration Enforcement Alcohol Licencing Team on
the 18th of May 2026. No objection to the transfer was received. As such, the transfer was granted.
A variation to the designated premises supervisor was also submitted by Latin Market Tuting Ltd to
change the DPS to André de la Mora Hernandez, who is here tonight.
No objections were received from the police for this.
On the 23rd of June, 2026, the licencing team received an email from
immigration requesting a copy of the transfer application to be sent
to them as a matter of urgency.
Another copy was duly sent that day confirming that Fleur de Samba had
vacated the premises and asking them in light of this fact, how they wish
to proceed with regards to the review.
Immigration confirmed that as Fleur de Samba are no longer the licence holder, they no longer request a revocation of the licence anymore,
but have requested that the conditions below be added to the licence, which are
The premises licence holder must carry out the relevant right to work cheques for any prospective employees before commencing employment.
This includes anyone on a trial or working on a casual or informal basis.
The premises licence holder must retain copies of documents as a result of conducting cheques relating to the right to work.
These must be stored securely by the premises licence holder of the premises, or a digital copy must be immediately accessible from the premises for ease of inspection by immigration officials and or relevant officers.
and thirdly the premises licence holder or any person appearing to represent the
licence holder must be able to produce without delay documents relating to the
right to work at the request of an immigration officer and all
relevant officers. Whilst the new operator, the premises licence holder, could resist
the imposition of such conditions they have agreed them and it
should also be noted that the conditions requested by immigration reflect the
requirements of immigration law which would not usually stay outside of licencing decisions,
but as there have been immigration offences at the premises, they can be imposed to require enhanced
compliance. As the above conditions have all have been agreed by all parties, a full hearing is not
required to be held under section 18 3a of the Licencing Act 2003, but we invite you as the
conditions presented which will be stated on the decision notice to formalise the agreement.
Councillors, I've laid out the brief facts of the review application and subsequent changes,
but I'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you.
Thank you. Does the subcommittee have any questions for the licencing officer? I can
see no questions from the subcommittee. Are there any other questions or clarification
of anything that has been stated. As a reminder, this should only be where you would like
clarification on something stated by the Speaker, as both the applicant and representations will
shortly have a chance to address the subcommittee. I can see no requests for questions or clarification.
I now invite the applicant to address the subcommittee, and you will have five minutes
to speak after which questions may be asked to you.
Thank you. As Julie mentioned, so we initially...
Sorry, that's just that I can see Mr Bishop has his hand up.
Yes, if it helps the licencing subcommittee, as both parties have agreed to these conditions
going on, and in the circumstances that obviously you've got a new licensee on site,
unconnected to the persons or operator that had the immigration issues at the premises
and it's all agreed, you might consider that you don't need to hear from the applicant
or the current premises licence holder because it's all agreed by them. You've seen the paperwork
to that effect. Thank you, Mr Bishop. Are the members of the
subcommittee content with the proposal?
I think that's a yes.
Okay.
So that is agreed, the conditions
agreed between the applicant and the representation.
If we now move to the other item on the agenda, which is the application for Mr. Flowers.
Sorry, I was just going to confirm for Kavisha and Andre that they don't need to stay for
the rest of the meeting. Thank you.
You're going to get clean somewhere else.
Thank you.
Thank you very much for your time. Sorry about this and thank you very much for everything.
I'll see you here whenever you want to have a bite. I'll wait for you. Bye -bye.
Thank you.
Thank you. So we'll now consider the application for Brickwood Cafe
in respect to the premises known as Brickwood Cafe, 21 Battersea Rise, SW11 1HG. For those attending
for this application, please remain in the meeting room with a camera and microphone switched off.
this is irrelevant because both have now left the meeting room.
So that's referring to the decision room, I think, Mr Flayman.
Yes, sorry, because we've changed the order, the Chair's notes are a slight different, so
it will be the same process in terms of the Licencing Officer will introduce and then
the applicant will have their chance to speak and I note that there's no
representations in the meeting room. So, yeah, thank you.
Thank you very much. So I now invite the licencing officer to introduce this application.
Thank you, Councillor. JMHG Limited have applied for a new premises licence for brickwood,
coffee and bread at 21 Battersea Rise SW11 1HG for the sale of alcohol for consumption
on and off the premises and the provision of late night refreshment. Appendix B of the
report provides the full timings of the activities being applied for. The application was advertised
as required under the legislation with a site notice at the premises and a newspaper advert.
This resulted in the receipt of 11 representations from other persons.
These representations are the only ones for consideration tonight.
Appendix A to the report lays out the conditions arising from the applicant's operating schedule,
including those agreed with the Metropolitan Police, which will become conditions of the
licence if it is granted.
Appendix B to the report lays out the proposed hours for this licence.
Councillors, the options that are open to you tonight when deciding this new
application include granting the application as requested or modifying the
conditions of the licence, alter or omit conditions or add new or reject the
whole or part of the application.
Councillors, I've laid out the brief facts of the application, but I'll be happy to
answer any questions you may have.
Thank you.
Thank you. Does the subcommittee have any questions for the licencing officer? I can
see no questions. Sorry, it counts at the bottom.
Could you just clarify for me what practical conditions the application applicant has put
in to reduce against the impact of noise and nuisance?
That will be in the committee report, all the conditions.
Let me...
Click clearing up from the outside space.
I haven't got it on front of me, sorry.
Let me get it.
Okay, sorry about that.
Okay, Brickwood. Alright, Brickwood. Okay, they are... Sorry, what was your question
about noise from the outside areas? Just what practical conditions to reduce the impact
of noise, especially from the outside space? Okay, well, condition eight says external
areas. The external areas, gardens or terraces must be cleared of customers by 2200 hours.
No more than six customers shall be allowed to use the designated smoking area at any
time and all reasonable steps, including patrolling the external areas from time to time, shall
be taken to stop customers or potential customers from congregating outside the premises or
causing noise nuisance to residents living in the vicinity of the premises.
You may want to see clarification on what reasonable steps, other than patrolling in
external areas from time to time, that the applicant proposes.
They've also proposed external doors of the premises should be kept closed late at night
except for immediate access and egress from 10 o 'clock until the premises closes and having
notices displayed at all exits requesting customers leave the area quietly and to respect
residents. There's also a plant and equipment including ventilation and extraction systems
shall be correctly installed, operated, maintained, regularly serviced to ensure that they're
operating correctly and efficiently so as not to cause a nuisance to neighbours.
So there's quite a few conditions that they've offered to mitigate any nuisance to residents.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Are there any other questions or clarification on anything that has been stated?
As a reminder, both the applicant and representations will have a chance to address the subcommittee,
and this should only be where you would like clarification, something stated by the speaker.
I can see no requests for questions or clarification.
I will now invite the applicant to address the subcommittee and you will have five minutes to
speak after which questions may be asked to you. No problem, thanks very much Charlie. I'm Jake
Manjin of JMHG. I'm an independent owner operator who has resided in Clapham for the past 20 years.
We would like to think that we are a big part of the local community and we've had thriving
businesses for the best part of what's been the last 10 to 12 years. During the past three to four
years though it's been a little bit more challenging due to the fundamentals of what you all would have
seen in regards to wage increases, council taxes, inflation and all the rest of it. And so what was
a fairly consistent and solid brand as far as our operation goes we're now needing to kind of
broaden our horizons and think outside the box a little bit
to be able to generate additional revenue.
They're the fundamentals of what we're trying to do here.
And we proved that to be successful recently
when about 18 months ago,
we were able to get an identical licence
for our premises on Hildra Street in Ballum.
What this has been the catalyst to do
is give us the opportunity to hold various supper clubs,
events and functions just to generate additional revenue.
The Brickwood Battersea Rise, 21 Battersea Rise site, currently it's one of four within
the Brickwood portfolio and it's the only one that currently doesn't have a liquor licence
or a premises licence.
Statistics -wise and database, it's worth about 4 -6 % to us as far as revenue goes and currently
right now, being completely honest with you, it's a business which is only breaking even.
And so what we're hoping by implementing this is that we can offer an additional offering to our locals and our regulars to be able to increase our revenues to hopefully see the business through into the future.
Me personally, I've been a DPS in Lambeth and Wandsworth for over 15, 16 years.
I'm proud to say that I've got an untarnished record.
And we do everything that we can to work within the local community and of course the residents.
Previous history, I've also been a DPS for a number of other companies along Northcote Road and Battersea Rise.
And I know the history and the reputation of this particular area along Kildin Road and Webbs Road as well.
So that goes with great cautious and respect to hopefully see this through.
and I'm open to working with the council and the locals just to make sure that we do everything
that they're comfortable with and to make us compliant so we can have some longevity in the future.
Thank you.
Thank you very much. Does the subcommittee have any questions for the applicants?
You're clearly applying for a licence that applies consistently through the week, every
week of the year. You mentioned in your other properties that you run sapper clubs and things
of that nature. What's your intention with Brickwood? Is it to be open every night and
serving alcohol in the garden every night? What are you expecting initially?
Yeah, good question Councillor. I'm 46 years old and I've been in hospitality for over
20 years so the ambition is definitely not to have to open every night, let me tell you
that right now. It's to offer the additional opportunities which come into
us and unfortunately we get disregarded because we don't have the instant
licence in place when we need to suggest, which are very convenient and easy for us,
to go down the TENS application licences. Sometimes that's a little bit off -putting
and we would like to set in play some more consistent and regular
supper clubs and events like that because as you know the TENS come at
and with a designated premises licence that would offset that a little bit and
to see if we can just build on that on that trade. But to answer your question
directly, the objective isn't to open every night, it's just to be
there mainly, but we can offer you know a brunch offering like your Bloody Marys
and your Moses on our Saturdays and Sundays which we get requested for a lot
in fantasy, but we can't. And like I said, the bespoke events.
Thank you. And second question, if I may. Is that okay, Councillor Fisher?
Okay, Noor. Yeah, great. So actually, I should have said
first off, thank you for your entrepreneurial services to the local area. Really appreciate
people who come with energy and enthusiasm and provide services to want to have. So thank you
for that. You talked about your record as a DPS. Can I ask, have there been other occasions where
you've been taking out licences where you have agreed specific conditions around the licence,
and what has been your experience of working with those and ensuring that conditions are
put in place effectively? Yeah, well I mean fundamentally as a DPS, you know,
you know, you try to strive for those four key responsibilities,
which is obviously crime prevention, public safety,
public nuisance and protecting children of harm.
As far as examples go, yeah, this potential licence at 21
Battersea Rocks is mirroring the one that One's Worth
granted not so long ago on Hildreth Street.
And so fundamentally, we're looking to just do the same thing,
just to have that two -hand predominantly used in every capacity
during our daytime hours. We are a food -led venue.
We are a brunch cafe.
We have been so for the past 15 years in South West London.
And that's what we would like to continue to do.
But it does come back down to those fundamental points, Councillor,
that it is getting harder and harder.
and I think if you just sit and just rest on your laurels and think everything's going to be okay,
that's going to be detrimental to us. So there is, you know, there needs to be more opportunity
for us to be able to pivot a little bit and just having that capacity to be able to use the
premises in its full capacity just gives us that opportunity to do so.
Thank you and you know clearly that's interesting you know talking about being food -led and
Are you aware of what the hours of operation or the other premises along the street are?
Are they working to similar, I mean I think there are some more evening restaurant based
locations there.
The hours that you have applied for in line with licencing hours of the premises and nearby
premises?
It depends upon what you've been as far as in line goes.
It's not the latest, it's not the earliest.
You know what I mean?
We're looking for it to be very concise.
And bear in mind too, the premises holds about 55 seats inside.
It holds about 15 capacity externally.
So these aren't large places.
And please bear in mind that I'm sandwiched in between a tequila bar, which has a 1am,
and a pub.
And they are both triple the capacity that I am.
And so, you know, we take it very seriously that, you know, I mean, that would obviously
be additional and contribute, but we're not looking to trade to all outlets, you know
what I mean, and do any of those things.
We are a food -led venue.
We are not looking to open a bar, we're not looking to run a bar.
And so I think what I hope is that, you know, we will complement those operations and be
more of an incentive just for people to come up from Northcote Road, which gets the majority
of the trade, understandably.
I think probably my last question, and you will have seen a number of residents, particularly
at the rear of the property raising issues around potential noise. Having, if you're aware of those,
have you reflected on how you might carry forth business, carry forward business,
in a way that doesn't impact on those residents or minimises impacts on those residents?
Yeah, no, absolutely. And you know, it's always, you always look at those and you wish that
sometimes the residents would come in and maybe have an open discussion with you about,
you know, a lot of those objections were, for me, they were quite irrelevant because
there was numerous, you know, accusations that we show sports and we have our doors
open and we've never done any of those things. And I think there was, I think I did speak
to the council and a couple of those were withdrawn.
And then when you do read many more of them,
you know, they're points that they raise,
Councillor, they're not accurate.
And you know, for praying God,
they're going to turn into a cocktail bar
or they're going to do this and that.
And not one resident has ever come in and spoken to me
and asked, what are you going to do?
Not one resident has come in and said,
OK, well, you know,
I've got little kids or anything else like that,
because that's all open to it, you know,
and make the point we've got three flats directly above us.
And I don't believe there was any objections directly
from any of those flats.
What we do have behind us on Kildun Road is
we have a lane way and then we have 40 foot trees
that also is a level of soundproofing.
And I didn't add it to my portfolio of information,
that I actually had, so whether it's relevant or not, I actually had sound testing done
when I, because I originally had applied for getting, building an extension.
The landlord had suggested that he wanted to go and do that, so he wanted me to apply
for that on his behalf, but it was too expensive for him and he didn't do it.
The reason I bring that up is because we did the sound testing and there was more sound
coming from Battersea Rise than there was from the rear.
And so the point was that there is a huge amount of noise that comes from
that highway that goes through to
the back of Kildin Road, which was in his
calculations was potentially is a greater nuisance than
what potentially 12 to 15 people would do up until
9 30 to 10 30 in the evening. So I thought that was quite interesting.
But read them all, respect them all, like I have done so for
the past 15 years, you know what I mean?
You treat your residents and your neighbours
with the absolute respect.
And then once, when you do hear from them,
it's normally when they want their 16 year old son
or daughter employed, and that's when you can have a chat,
and that's when they realise that, you know what I mean?
You're not a big corporate monster
or anything else like that,
and you take them on for the summer, so.
Thank you. Any other questions? Councillor Boston, Councillor Hopkins? I had a couple of
questions. The first one, you mentioned the Hilda Street premises in Ballym. Do you know roughly the
apportionment of revenue in that premises between your alcohol sales and your non -alcohol sales?
About five and a half.
So sorry, five and a half percent?
Five percent.
Is alcohol sad?
Yeah.
Okay.
And I can see in condition eight in the application there's a reference to this designated smoking
area.
Is that a reference to the garden at the back of the…?
No, no, that's just in the street to be honest with you.
It's going to be strictly non -smoking.
Okay.
Sorry if I can assist, Councillor Fisher. Just further clarification on that. So you're
saying that the smoking will be out front and what time will the actual garden area
be closed? I know you're closing it down at 10, but is that permanently or not?
It was 10 .30 I think, which we were applying for and that would be.
Right, okay.
So yes.
That took off with a lot of the other external seating areas that I've got in Lambeth and
Wandsworth.
It seems to work successfully.
And yeah, like I said, when Miss Hopkins said earlier about the designated smoking area,
I was kind of surprised by that because we hadn't acknowledged that there was one that
was non -smoking and it was just if people do want that it's like any other bar, restaurant,
cafe in the UK where that just needs to be taken outside.
I'm sorry, can I just clarify, it's 10 or 10 .30 that the application is for the to clear
the external areas, so condition 8 says 10 o 'clock.
10. Okay. Yeah.
And so in the rear external area, there's, I think there's seating for 16.
Yeah.
Okay.
And so with the Hill District premises, how many roughly how many nights a week is that? Is that open?
We don't trade any nights a week at the moment, but again it's used when we need it,
elements there when we want it. Events, supper clubs, you know we did a light thing for the
World Cup last week which was successful, so we don't have any designated evenings right now.
Okay and that's basically the same proposal for...
Yeah, I mean like I said, the fundamental objective for us is that, you know what I mean,
that we can have an alcoholic drinks offering for the brunch.
And we can then also use it to pivot
and to generate additional revenue in the evenings.
We're not looking to go from potentially 30 days granted
just to go into full 24 -7 breakfast, lunch,
and dinner services.
Thank you.
Are there any other questions or clarification on anything that has been stated?
I can see no requests for questions or clarification and there are no representations on the call.
Would you like to make any closing remarks, Mr Manjian?
No, I think, you know, I mean, like I said, you know, when we discussed it with the police
and licencing, I was happy to kind of, you know, come through with all the conditions
they've set.
This is a smaller venue than a lot of my other premises, you know, and it's not in such a
cluster of big late night venues to be honest with you.
And if there's ever kind of disruption,
I'd be very, very surprised by it because
it's quite a small venue and it's not the objective
just to open every evening.
It would be a huge opportunity for the business
if this was granted today because like I said,
the business really needs it.
And so yeah, it would be great for the business
to move forward.
Thank you.
So that concludes that application.
The decision reasons and any legal guidance given during the subcommittee's
discussion that has informed their decision will be confirmed in writing,
together with information about any rights of appeal within five working days.
OK.
The members of the licencing subcommittee, the Democratic