Licensing Sub-Committee - Thursday 11 June 2026, 7:00pm - Wandsworth Council Webcasting

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Fantastic. Well, welcome to this meeting of the Licencing Subcommittee which is being held as a
remote meeting. This meeting is being webcast so please bear with us if there are any technical
issues. My name is Councillor Mitten. I am the Chair of the Licencing Committee and also of this
subcommittee. I know we have it as an agenda item to appoint a Chair for the meeting. I just wanted
to have it noted that obviously that process
has been completed already.
I'll now invite the other attendees
to introduce themselves in the following order.
So if we have Councillors first,
then officers, applicants, and then representation.
So Councillor Morritt.
Sure, thanks Chair.
Councillor Morritt, Thamesfield.
So Ayliff.
My name is Councillor Eyleth, Ballin Ward, one of the sitting members on this committee.
Paul Greeno, Legal Advisor to the committee. Julie Hopkins, Licencing Officer.
And Michael Flowers, Democratic Service Officer in Clark for the meeting.
Chad Solvendrum, I'm the owner of Morley's Chicken.
Fantastic. And representations?
and not just the franchise you just made the application.
I'm the Reverend Joshua Ray, Vicar of Roehampton.
Fantastic, thank you. So move to apologies. Are there any
apologies for absence or decoations of interest for any items on the agenda?
None from me, Chair.
None from me.
Fantastic. So if we now move to item four, we will now consider the application for new
premises licence in respect to the premises known as Morley's, which is 24 Roehampton
High Street, London, SW 15 4HJ. And I now invite the licencing officer to introduce
the application. Thank you, Councillor. Sir Barton Jayakumar
has applied for a new premises licence for maulies at 24 Roehampton High Street
London SW 15 4HJ for the provision of late night refreshment. Appendix B of the
report provides the full time into the activities being applied for. The
application was initially to allow late night refreshment between the hours of
2300 hours to 0200 hours Sunday to Wednesdays and 2300 hours to 0300
hours, Thursdays to Saturdays. The police raised concerns regarding the late hours
for Thursdays to Saturdays and in response the applicant agreed to reduce
those hours back to 2 a .m. seven days a week in line with the council's
guideline policy for late night refreshment premises in the borough and
also agreed further conditions relating to CCTV provisions. The application was
advertised as required under the legislation with two site notices at the
premises, one in the shop window and one on the shutters, and also a newspaper advert,
which officers confirmed. This resulted in the receipt of 10 representations from other
persons, which are included in the committee bundle you have. These representations are
the only matter for consideration tonight. Appendix A to the report lays out the conditions
along with the applicant's operating schedule, including those agreed with the Metropolitan
and police which will become conditions of the licence if it is granted.
Appendix B to the report lays out the proposed hours for this licence.
Councillors, the options that are open to you tonight when deciding this new application
include granting the application as requested, or modifying the conditions of the licence,
alter or omit conditions, or add new, or reject the whole or part of the application.
Councillors, I've laid out the brief facts of the application, but I'm happy to answer
any questions you may have. Thank you.
Does the subcommittee have any questions for licencing manager?
No? No.
Okay are there any other questions or clarification
on anything that has been stated.
So just to remind everyone for both the applicant
and representations,
have a chance to address the subcommittee
and this should be only where you get those clarifications.
If not, I'll now invite the applicant
to address the subcommittee.
You'll have five minutes to speak
of which then questions may be asked of you.
Hi everyone, so obviously the application is for the extension of, well not extension,
but for late night refreshment hours and I guess my involvement here is to kind of express
the brand behind the shop and the licence.
We currently have 130 plus stores
of which 120 sit in the greater London area.
And of that, a good portion of stores
have hours after 11 o 'clock.
It would be inaccurate to say that there hasn't been
over a period of time issues that may have come up
whether that's antisocial or, you know,
nuisance and so forth.
However, I can confidently say that it's nowhere near as much as you would expect to justify.
Well, from a position of strength, I would confidently say that we have bought those extension of hours after 11 o 'clock and carried them out really professionally.
our franchisees generally especially Akash has has got other late
licences in his other units and the staff behind the counter are very well
experienced a lot of our staff that work within the Morley shops have worked in
chicken shops especially Morley's well into the hours of the night
and know how to sort handle it so from an experience perspective it's there
another thing to add as a brand we have signed up with a organisation called
Strut which allows predominantly women not sure if exclusively to women but
women to seek refuge in our shops when they are calling for taxis as
statistically ordering taxis and waiting on the street isn't as safe as waiting
in a environment where there's, you know, a place like a Morley's or a news agent or
a supermarket and so forth. That was a campaign we started at the start of the year. It's
been super successful. It's gotten on to hit media on a national basis. We've won an award
with the QSR awards for that. And that shows and displays our commitment to not only the
the safety of women, but the safety of people
and creating an environment where,
as I've seen with some of the representations
about protection of children, protection of women,
protection of men, it counts for everyone.
And I would say with a lot of brands,
I have yet to see a brand do that outside,
in our sector anyway, in the QSR sector.
So again, I say that quite confidently and quite proudly.
from a looking at the general stuff obviously we've we we feel we have
cornered off quite a lot of the licencing objectives specifically with
the police of course because that is where the bulk of the issues do lie and
the police have obviously come back and have accepted or you know whether we're
going to call it they've taken on what we've done and we've made those changes
and we're trying to show our commitment to making sure that the residents in the area are
You know, you know do not experience
You know negative impact on their whether it's criminal nuisance or environmental
We do feel like we put all the caveats in there to ensure a very smooth operation there
Again, just being really honest and open if there's going to be in
moments where some things fall out of, you know, what we would expect and those I would believe
are isolated incidents, there are controls that we can still put in place to ensure that, you know,
these things are monitored and kept quite closely because we would keep an incident report. There
are maintenance logs for the CCTV and all of those are accessible by police and we in the past have
actually had the Metropolitan Police contact us for crime that wasn't even to do with us.
That was on the other side of the street and we have supported them to sort of combat any
issues there and it is very much a community type of feel and obviously I really respect the
residents here because naturally if I was living in an area and someone's put a licencing application
for ours of course you know the main thing is you don't want exactly what's been described.
But I do feel we're very responsible.
I feel we've got the experience and I think in the application
that has been quite evidently shown to everyone.
And like I said, we have done everything we can to close off
the licencing objectives and the worries around that.
Of course, I'm not sure this is the moment to do it,
but I'm open to any questions that might be thrown our way.
But again, I can only speak from experience.
and what I've seen with the documentation to say that if anyone was going to apply for it.
I know there is some negative connotations with chicken shops in general, I'm very aware of that,
but I feel Morley's does a fantastic job of making sure that we follow licencing objectives
to the best of our ability. So yeah, I'll close it there. Thank you.
Fantastic. Does the subcommittee have any questions for the applicant?
So I do have some questions for the applicant. I suppose to begin with I'm interested obviously
less so in the kind of franchise in general but more specifically on this particular High
Street, this particular Morley's shop and I'd just like to kind of gather a little bit
more information about you know there have been concerns raised about for example littering
associated with the shop.
And I would like to know kind of the understanding of the owner and the
franchisee, whoever's speaking, um,
a little bit more about what problems there have been and what has been done to
address this.
Hi Jonathan, this is Shan again. Um, I would,
I would like to answer it on behalf of our cast show only because he's a bit
shy and it's not the best speaker here.
And I feel quite confident because a lot of the training comes through us and a
of that advisory and consultancy comes from our side, but if you would prefer Aakash to answer it,
I'm obviously going to let that happen as well. Are you alright for me to answer it or would you
prefer that to come from Aakash? Let's start with yourself.
Sorry, sorry Jonathan, it completely just cut out. Was it okay with me to start kicking off?
Correct, yes. Okay, yes, yeah. In terms of the litter, so specifically around the littering,
within, you know, one of the things that we have done in our stores, and that is what's
going to be advised to this store, is staff to have, we have obviously a very senior staff
always in the premises, and it is very much a case of the senior staff to ensure that
the pathway and the outside and the area surrounding the moorlies and, you know, because the stream
is quite narrow and it is easy to sort of get from one end to another and to
take a bit of responsibility with regards to like the littering and what's
being left on the street. I feel it's quite a straightforward ask of the staff
to cheque that periodically over the night, specifically on the busiest nights
which would always be a sort of a Thursday, Friday and a Saturday and of
course if you know one of the things that we're quite strong on is making
sure this documentation, if there is a serial amount of waste just building up in certain
areas and getting to understand why that's happening. And then it is a case of like taking
that away and seeing how we could fix that. Historically, when we've had our other sites,
when we did open in Dalston, so in Hackney, we had, you could clearly see there was an
increase in littering, but we managed to make sure that was getting cleaned up. So whilst
it did at the beginning was quite overwhelmingly, quite a little bit more than we usually expect,
we were able to basically make sure someone goes out of a bag, picks it up, puts it into the
bag, rubbish bag, and then dispose of that as you normally would through the waste collection.
So it's a very manual process, but given that, you know,
we're very eager to get that application and make sure that we do our job, you know,
it's a very small thing for us to do.
And I suppose just on that, are you at all concerned that the extension of the hours
might lead to more litter in the area? Are you fully confident that that will be all
cleared up and the staff can mitigate that fully?
Yes, 100%. Well, I'm 100 % confident we can carry that out because we've done it. Naturally,
whenever you're doing these applications, that is always a key thing, right? Because
the nature of the food, the nature of the packaging.
The good thing about packaging as well,
it's paper, it's card, it evaporates,
but it's really about the food and what sits there because naturally,
it would attract rodents and foxes and whatnot.
But again, we take that really responsible
because just looking at it really holistically,
we want people to come to our shops.
We don't want people thinking that,
oh, here's a load of food on the floor, it's a mess.
Naturally, no one wants to eat in a place like that,
but it's also taking it a step further
and making sure that across the street,
that that is to the best of our responsibility,
cleaned up and monitored.
And I think, again, it's not to be,
I've done the right word,
but it's being realistic as well.
If it shows that certain things
are building up a little bit,
again, it's proactively going out there
and making sure that that's getting cleaned up.
And like I said, we've had that issue before
where as the shop got busier,
you could see there was a bit of a buildup,
and then we cleaned it up,
And we made sure you could see by the week later,
it was just really well done.
And it never came as an issue,
never came up as an issue later on.
So it's a learning curve to understand
how it builds out if it does,
and then just making sure that we're on top of it.
Thank you.
Well, I've got a follow up if I may.
Which is sort of, I suppose implicit in what you're saying
is you need to go and clean it up because the customers in Varebrae are going to dispose
of litter outside, correct? And sort of just paint a picture for me if you can, it's a
sort of who the average customer is at 1 .30 and the kind of weekend who's going into the
who tend to be availing themselves of this licence.
So just to quite understand the question correctly,
so you're saying at 1 .30am the typical customer that comes in,
how would they sort of...
Yeah, because what I took from your previous thing,
and I understand your point, you're being very responsible,
but you're effectively saying,
we have to go up and clean up after our customers.
If we need to, and like I said, that's very responsible, but I'm just trying to understand who that customer who is using the place at 1, 1 .30, it could be any time actually, that might lead them to be littering all over the high street.
I think so, you know, naturally, what we envisage as well is a bit of a hybrid, right? You would have a mixture of delivery versus walking customer. So on a delivery customer, of course, it gets picked up, it goes directly to the house. Generally, I would say a good portion of customers is coming through that channel. The customer that's walking by wants to get late night food. Yeah, you know, being brutally honest, it's even night shift. People on night shifts or night shift, or night shift.
or people that may be coming from a pub or a social event.
I would honestly kind of looking at sort of how I've seen it
through the few stores that I've opened recently
and looking at the way that works is
customers actually more responsible
than I'll say even at night.
It's just, you know, it only takes one or two customers
to drop litter and make it look more than it is.
And again, like I said, for me, it's quite manageable.
It's not as, you know, equally that high street isn't the busiest high street where you've got loads of things going on.
And, you know, I always use Kingsland Road in Dalston as a good example. It's a madhouse.
It is literally nonstop, people up and down, drinks, bottles, nothing to do with us.
But luckily for us, there's a bin outside and everyone leaves it there so it looks even worse than it should be.
But in a scenario like this, for me, when I visualise it, you've got good wastage inside
the shop, we've got the staff who would go out there deliberately to make sure that things
are clear and it's being responsible.
And of course, like I said, having an incident log where we have to protect ourselves because
we know how it would look if there is things built up, even if it's got nothing to do with
more or less. We have actually gone out of our way to pick up bottles that actually don't belong
anything to our stores and that's just the sort of social element of it.
But if I was to say to you that the sheer volume of that, it's not significant.
Understood. Chair, a follow -up if I may. You made reference there to
takeaways. What proportion of the business in the early hours is likely to be takeaways?
So that would be walking customers.
No, no, Deliveroo, Easy, any one of the kind of motorbike, e -scooter type of things, you
know, I kind of get home late.
My expectation, it would be between 30 to 35%.
Roehampton, Morley's has not really shown really positive delivery, if I'm honest, compared
to some other locations.
For example, Laytonstone, it's a lot busier than it is in Roehampton.
I just think it's the type of people in the area just a bit more will go there rather
than, I don't know, it could be a reason why they don't want to deliver as high compared
to other areas.
But we would expect around a 65 split, so 65 going to the walking customer and above really.
And I'm only basing that on the data that I have at hand from Uber, Deliveroo and Justy,
and the radius of where those orders are coming from, and Roehampton isn't that impressive, if I'm honest.
Thanks, Chen. No further questions from me.
I'll ask if there are any more questions from members of the subcommittee.
Yeah, sorry, I would like to follow on and it links to the efforts of Councillor Morat
here. I think one of the concerns raised across multiple of the kind of representations is
about kind of congregations and two types I think are of interest. One is those of delivery
drivers and the like, which we know is an issue across Wandsworth. I'd like if we could address
both of these at some stage and the other as well would be just clients in the more general sense.
You noted, Shan, that many of your clients would be coming from night shifts, who I'm sure are very
respectful, very careful with their litter, but also many might be coming from the pub and may
intoxicated and I suppose there are concerns about order but really as much in a residential
area about noise and could you please address both of those groups of people, what the existing
problem if you believe there is any and finally what mitigations might be in place to ease
that. Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah absolutely. Thanks Jonathan. So in terms of the noise in the congregation,
One of the things that we have to ensure are there is good notice,
notices that very explicitly say, you know, no noise to be made, you know, you know, from an adult
perspective, you know, just make your order, collect your food, please leave quietly. Those
notices would be spread out across, you know, the shop, especially for the sake of after 11 o 'clock,
it might look a bit excessive, but, you know, just to make sure that the message is clear.
In terms of a longer term view of how we would approach it,
if for any reason we felt that a little bit of noise there and there's a little
bit of a congregation going on there for no particular reason,
it would then be the drawdown of an SIA security.
That's SIA security as I'm sure if anyone doesn't know what
that is, please let me know. Otherwise I'll just carry on.
But SIA security appointed for the key days,
which would be definitely Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
to ensure that basically things are moving smoothly in line with the licencing objectives
with regards to noise pollution and just, um, um, well, sorry, I forgot the proper word for it,
but the sort of congregation of people. So there's no traffic buildup of people on there.
And even it includes drivers as well, because as you know, drivers come, they might have to wait,
they might talk a bit loud on their speaker on their phones and stuff like that. And that again,
is something that we can control as a sort of a mid to long term view if we feel like,
okay, it's getting a bit noisy here, we need to do something about that.
So whilst I feel it's a bit excessive to put an SIA at this stage without really monitoring it and looking at it,
you know, as a big picture, I would say that it is something that we can draw in.
And again, I've got it in other sites, but equally, you know, those sites are heavy footfall areas.
I'm not, if I was to compare it to the Roehampton store, it, you know, it's barely touching the surface.
So I can make a lot, I can justify it from the get -go on those stores, but for other stores similar to Roehampton,
I would say I would take a more pragmatic view of, let's look at it, let's see if it's running smoothly,
then we know we're doing alright there, and if it isn't where it needs to be, then we can appoint SIA.
And we have relationships with SIA firms as well,
who know our business and know exactly how to manage that.
And so just directly after that, sorry, apologies.
And I appreciate there's probably a second half answer
to the question from Shann as well.
So we, sorry if we're getting all mixed up.
So take that to mean then that in the first instance
and until that SIA, for example, is in place,
because there are concerns that you don't have any plans
for any mitigating means by which you would limit noise or congregation?
So is the question how would I limit it in the first instance without SIA?
So I'm kind of just clarifying that we can take it from what you said that in
the first instance there wouldn't be any kind of mitigation plans to minimise
noise or congregation, is that correct? I wouldn't say there's no mitigation there
I mean, maybe I'm not getting the terminology right,
but you know, the first instance is making sure
that the notices are there and that the staff understand
to communicate that to walking customers,
making sure that, you know, please, you know,
if we please move, you know, leave the premises quietly,
please dispose of any wastage responsibly,
and please don't congregate.
If there is a congregation -
I think what cancer Edith was really asking was,
I would just say, or a similar question to my own, which is what you're saying,
and I just want to make sure I'm absolutely clear about this,
is there will be no security, but you may wish to add it in the future if they are a problem.
Is that correct?
Yeah, I think it's a combination of if it, yes, to answer your question, yes.
If we would monitor it in the first instance to see how it is,
If for any reason we feel like we probably need to add, get a bit more support on this to make sure it's running a bit a lot smoother,
then it would be an appointment of an SIA security at the door to make sure it's literally no congregation, get your order, please live quietly,
no seating available as well. If there are seating, I can't 100 % remember at the Roehampton store, there are tables and chairs.
That is something that I do always advise all the stores is close off all the tables and chairs if there are,
so that there's no reason to hover around the store.
And so more, I think, so that, Aylif, has that answered your questions?
Yep, that's answered my question.
Fantastic. So if there are no more questions from the subcommittee, I'll now pass over to those
making representations. Again, you have five minutes to make your representation and then
open for questions. I see that Anna Pritchard has arrived. Which
of us would you like to go first? I'm happy to go with yourself first then.
And is that five minutes per representer or for representations in total?
I have to defer probably to Mr Flowers there. Yes, yes, I'll just, sorry, I've got some
audio feedback I think from Anna Prichard. It would normally be the equal time between
the representations and the applicant. I know the second representation arrived after the applicant
had arrived so it might be prudent just to cheque if the applicant had wanted any more time just to
add any comments and then obviously Mr Reverend Ray and Anna Prichard could have five minutes each
but I think we just need to cheque with the applicant how they'd like their time.
Mr. Salvengeron.
Just to cheque whether you'd like some extra time.
Oh no, sorry, it just cut out a bit. Was that even me?
Yes, so we have two representations here. We can allocate them five minutes each to speak,
but if we do that, we wanted to offer you an extra five minutes if you did want to
have that to address anything else before we move on to them.
In terms of the representations, I do feel what we've discussed earlier and what we've covered
to a degree covers a lot of the issues that I feel would be brought up.
I'm happy to answer or sort of reaffirm, provide comfort for the representations and the people,
the residents around, you know, again, I don't want to repeat myself or sort of say the same thing over and over.
I do feel like we have covered the licencing objectives as best as possible and again,
taking into account the residents and the representation.
So, you know, yeah, unless there's any specific questions, I feel,
you know, I feel that we've answered that earlier today. Thanks. Mr. Carino.
I was just going to say that you will have an opportunity at the end to make a
closing statement.
So if between now and then you think of anything
else,
then there will be an opportunity at the end for you to make a closing statement.
Sure. Thanks Paul.
Fantastic. In that case, move over to the Reverend Ray first and then Anna Pritchard second.
So thanks to the members of the committee for giving me the opportunity to say something. I
should say the outset that I'm speaking not on behalf of the congregation of Holy Trinity
Roehampton, but I don't think I get much pushback against the views I'm going to express from the
of the premises in question.
But I have, as well as being a local resident,
I have a professional interest
in the flourishing of this community as a whole.
And that concern is the heart of what I want to say.
Before I get onto my main observation,
I just had to come back on litter.
There's an aspect of litter that we haven't discussed.
I mean, I think Councillor Morin makes a good point,
but it seemed implicit in what you were saying,
but that there need to be these precautions taken
suggests that the anticipated clientele
will have a propensity to drop litter.
I think, and that has to be a reality that we take seriously.
Somebody eating chicken at 1 .30 at night
might have poor impulse control.
So that's a reality.
But the other reality is that there's a lot of passing trade
that gets fast food here and they get into their car,
they drive around to a side street,
they eat their chicken and they chuck the paper out
the window. So no matter how responsible the vendor is there's nothing they can do about it.
So I think that needs to be borne in mind but the general point I want to make is I've got no
particular animus against this particular chain, this particular instance.
This is one further move away from the Roehampton that I want to see. I mean the community,
the Rahantan that I would consider to be a flourishing community is in which most people
are eating a home -cooked meal from fresh ingredients about seven o 'clock at night
around the family table going to bed at a reasonable hour getting up and going to work.
That's the world I want to live in. I think that's the world that's actually a really good world to
live in. I don't want to make people live in that world at the point of a Kalashnikov but that's the
kind of community that I would like to see developing and growing in Roehampton.
I think a lot of people in Roehampton really, really want that.
The problem is Roehampton has become this kind of zone of tolerance, which is, oh, well,
nobody cares about Roehampton, let's stick another fast food joint there.
There are already, as you'll be aware, Councillors, quite a lot of fast food joints in Roehampton
High Street operating in breach of the zoning regulations for those premises because it's
kind of place and people think well Roehampton we won't mind. See what happens if you try and
get a two o 'clock licence for a chicken shop on Broughamwood Road. And I kind of want us to have
more of a Broughamwood Road vibe. I want us to be a place that says this isn't really the kind of
community we are where people are kind of eating fast food in the middle of the night, particularly
because quite a lot of the people eating fast food in the middle of the night would have come
here from somewhere else and they'll be, their impulse control may be not the best at that
time and I would like them not to be attracted here as a place to heedlessly consume fast
food before going home to sleep off a large night out.
So it's really, my concerns are really is the direction of travel we're going in Southampton
And so I would want to resist this.
Not, I mean, it's very good to hear from Shan
the initiative letting women go inside the shop
to call a taxi.
I think that's very commendable.
I don't have anything bad to say
about this particular chain,
but it's the genre that I would like to resist.
And I would appeal to you Councillors to help us
to be a community that is more orderly
and measured and flourishing in a kind of old fashioned way.
where we're not up at two o 'clock at night eating fast food. That's what I have to say.
Fantastic, thank you Mr Ray. Anna Pritchard, if I pass to you today.
Hello, thank you. I actually live on Hampton High Street, we've had a lot of problems,
well for the last past 12 years really with antisocial behaviour, litter,
excess noise and it's a tiny high street. Problems with parking, I was attacked
trying to get into my property because somebody had double parked while they'd
to a takeout. It was something that was brought up and we
brought together a meeting in January 2025 and one of the issues was with
regards to anti -social behaviour and litter or everybody on the high street
both businesses and residents were invited to the meeting and it was sad
actually because Morley's didn't attend the meeting. We have in Angel Muse lots
of litter on a daily basis that is takeout litter, chicken bones and
everything else. I've got a dog with we're having to pick up on a daily
basis. We've worked as a community with Brian Parfrey for Wandsworth Council who has been
absolutely fantastic and he's brought in extra deliveries. He kind of pulled his hair out
because he was saying you know it's not even that we can go in and find them for not making
sure that their litter is put away properly. You know when you come out in the morning
there's Morley's litter all over the place as it is as it stands. There's been
anti -social behaviour, I think it was a fight within Morley's that the police
had to attend to quite recently as well and then we've got other issues so it's
like the delivery of drivers so one of the one of the nuns at the the convent
on the high street was nearly knocked over by one on the pavements. They've
also got vulnerable adults within there. I was nearly knocked into as I was
pulling my car into my home somebody was coming on the inside and literally just
missed me by millimetres. Just wasn't looking, was speeding off and it's a one
it's a one -way road and you know you've got people it's a tiny little pavement
on either side that's the delivery aspect or delivery drivers I should say
it's not just it's not delivery but delivery motorcycles or what have you
we've also got a problem people are concerned with which has been happening
is that people quite often pick up a takeaway and then will sit in their car
late at night with their music blaring and people have a right to sleep. You've got people that are
working all hours and working really hard and actually people are disturbed at the moment.
So to have an extension to 2am in the morning until sort of things are sorted out,
you know, at a level now where people are, you know, the people in charge are
attending meetings, are being part of their community and making sure that
their staff, when they are working retail, you know, do go and litter pick
afterwards. I find it concerning that the gentleman didn't, wasn't sure of the
layout of the actual premises at Roehampton and I just think that, you know,
got so many problems at the moment that we're trying to deal with with regards to Roehampton
High Street and I am aware of the cost that it is costing us in council tax and also council
resources in order to sort all of these out and I think that this is going to exacerbate the issue
rather than make things better.
Fantastic, thank you.
Can I go to the subcommittee for questions
to representatives, if you have any.
I can go first, if that's helpful.
So actually, I will say to both of those
making representations,
that you've answered a number of my questions already,
so thank you for that.
I did have one final one and it's somewhat specific, which is to the Reverend Ray.
Ms Pritchard already covered this. To the Reverend Ray, I mean, what evidence or experience have you
seen or had of kind of noise and kind of loudness in and around? And I do want it to be specific
and in relation to the Morley's Chicken Shop and not kind of further afield. It's tempting to speak
that. No, I can't, I don't live close enough to be to Morley's to be personally inconvenienced
by it at night and I'm always tucked up in bed anyway so I'm, I mean I'm not immune to
noise pollution but I'm far enough away from Morley's that I'm not getting the immediate
nuisance associated with people using that particular facility. I do really quite frequently
find fast food litter in the street where I live on the morning after people have been
picking up their fast food in presumably in Roehampton and parking nearby to eat it. I
couldn't absolutely swear that I have forensically identified any Morley's litter. On the other
hand, at the moment Morley's doesn't have a licence to operate late enough. So I would,
if this licence should be granted… To be clear, I mean under the existing arrangements during that…
…under the existing arrangements, I wouldn't, I don't know because I haven't tallied up the
litter that I've picked up, so I couldn't swear to it, but I wouldn't get all surprised if there
has been, so certainly being chicken shop litter on the streets, and the local foxes will bear me
out on this. There may, it may have come from other chicken shops, but this is, Morley's is
nearest chicken shop. I would be prepared to take a small bet that if this licence is granted I will
find some in the coming months.
Councillor, did that answer your question?
Yes, although I see Miss Pritchard has her hand raised in case she wants to add something
that feels relevant to that question.
Yeah, Councillor, it's not actually a direct question for Anna Pritchard, which is to ask
where I understand what the Reverend Joshua was saying,
as she directly experienced the negative externalities,
if you like, of Morlice,
that was going to be my question to Anna Pritchard.
You're currently on mute.
So I'm so sorry, this is my technical issues, my side,
or technical any experience. I've actually got something on my WhatsApp but I don't know quite how to show it to you.
Which clearly shows the extent of the Morley's litter that we're having to deal with on a daily basis.
I think your verbal assurance is sufficient.
yeah okay can I just also mention something else is I know that people on
Medfield Street and Ponsonby Road where Joshua Ray lives I know a number of
people have had to so a lot of ladies walk their dogs in sort of a circuit at
night due to safety and not going on the Heath on their own and since Morley's
has been around because of the litter issue, they haven't been able to walk safely on Roehampton
High Street or at Blackford's Path because of the litter and the chicken bones because they're
dangerous. The dogs go for them and it's been a costly vet bill as well on top of the littering.
Councillor Moritz, does that answer your question?
No, both the Reverend Joshua and the Prince Edward have been quite comprehensive in setting
out the issues as they see them.
Fantastic, so just to cheque from those at the subcommittee, are there any more questions
or clarification?
Not from me.
Not on me either.
Okay, in that case I'll now invite each party to provide any closing remarks that you'd like
to submit. This will be limited to a maximum of two minutes. I'll first invite those making
representations followed by the applicant to address the licencing subcommittee.
Mine would just be a reiterated plea to councillors to put some wind in the sails of
Roehampton becoming more its best possible south, a place where people live more ordered flourishing
lives and which isn't attracting, it isn't a zone of tolerance for people who want to eat
jump for you in the middle of the night.
Thank you Reverend Ray. Anna Pritchard.
Thank you. Mine is really for Morley's to support us as a community as my children visit Morley's.
We support you but also to be within your current licencing conditions to be keeping
the place and the surrounding area, the area that you're doing business in, clean,
picking up litter, making sure that litter is disposed of and also not
creating, I think just saying that you know it's I'll be put up to say please
be mindful of neighbours, that doesn't make people mindful of neighbours you
know I'd be looking for people to be you know really conscious of the parking
situations and the risk of the delivery drivers that they're putting pedestrians at risk of.
It's a tiny street and lit up and you know it is a tiny street. So that's what without the extension
And my thing is, you know,
will more lives on a day -to -day level
be more community minded?
Fantastic. Thank you, Anna Pritchard.
And then from the applicant,
happy to take similar approaches as before, Mr. Salvendron,
if you wanted to speak.
Yeah, look, I just want to kick off by saying Joshua,
Anna, thank you for obviously expressing
and community -wise, I take it on board what you're saying.
Every resident that belongs to an area
has very much a desire to have
what they believe that area should be.
My only real response to that is
we are very much a London brand,
obviously specifically South London,
but we are a London brand.
We represent that quite proudly
when we talk about communities and whatnot.
it is, you know, I could really spend the next hour boring your head off with the
amount of community initiatives and stuff that we've done.
And I'm proud of that. And I think as a brand, we're proud of that.
It is then about translating that through to the shop and making sure that as
Anna expressed earlier, being part,
being more part of the Roehampton community,
really looking out for the local residents and making sure that the concerns
here are addressed and done in the way that we together would,
would expect both sides to do it. I just wanted to sort of address a couple of bits that Anna
brought up and Anna look I just want to say I appreciate you you know coming to our stores and
hearing what you've had to say and kind of the concerns around you know the litter specifically
the safety and then obviously the build up of cars just sitting there and you know not moving
and whatnot. There was a there was a mention about a fight now my understanding is that fight
actually started at the pub opposite the road and one thing I need to make clear which I you know we
we all know that is we're not serving alcohol. I'm not someone who really, you know, when it comes to licenced stuff, we know alcohol is
fundamentally quite a large contributor of issues that might build up. And what's happened there is a fight occurred. The guys have come over, one of the guys
have come over to eat, it then spilled over in terms of an argument. Police have got involved, and we supported the police with the CCTV and information to get that
sorted out. My understanding is that the people that are running that pub have actually left,
and they're looking to either sell it on or just shut down their licence to actually operate. Now,
for me, that's a win because, you know, it's a win in terms of the application, not that I'm
against pubs. I love pubs, so I'm not going to sit here and act as if I'm not pro that,
but I think in terms of the actual application and what we're trying to achieve here, one of
contributing factors are people drinking and being intoxicated. In terms of the
layout of the shop where you mentioned that I didn't know the layout of the shop,
one thing I can assure you is all our stores follow the same format. I
could walk in blindfolded and go to the back of the store without touching
anything. The only difference here is that they don't have tables and chairs.
That isn't to say they couldn't add tables and chairs but for the purpose of
this whole application I would strongly recommend they never add tables and chairs and that is to
avoid a congregation of people and people just loitering around. In terms of the... Sorry Mr
Selvadrin, sorry, each person has two minutes, you have used up that two minutes, but I really
appreciate yourself and everybody giving their final concluding remarks. That is, thank you
everybody that now concludes this part of the meeting. The decision, reasons and any legal guidance given during the subcommittee's discussion has informed the decision will be confirmed in writing, together with information about any rights of appeal within five working days.
So thank you. Thank you again for those attending this this meeting.